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An Unofficial IAHC FAQ



Hello, folks,
  To keep the debate relatively focused, I think a FAQ or at least
a list of non-topics is in order.
   Here's my initial cut at a weekly FAQ posting, in text and
html.

--dave
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An Unofficial IAHC Faq

This list of collected questions and putative answrs will be posted weekly
to the list, probably on Fridays. It is NOT the official opinion of the
committee or its membership, but I will do my best to make it reflect the
discussion. In other words, I'll try real hard not to lie (:-))

This commenced with the list of technical subjects that I suggested the IAHC
keep and eventually publish. Since I suggested it, looks like I volunteered
to do it... --davecb

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Questions

  1. Subjects the ad-hoc committee isn't addressing:
        o Registry identifiers
        o Domain name prefix search
        o Authentication of domain names
        o DNS requirements
        o Root nameserver issues
        o National TLDs
  2. What about current TLDs?
  3. Will IAHC consider whether or not to have new iTLDs?
  4. What about government proceedings?

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1. Subjects the Ad-Hoc Committee Isn't Addressing

Each of the following is an area that this committee shouldn't be
addressing, and the IETF working group that is or arguably should be
addressing it. Working groups may also be found at
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/wg-dir.html.

Registry Identifiers (Rick H. Wesson)
     ... how a registry manages contact, domain, and name server handles? If
     so should some one write a proposal on how these identifiers are to be
     handled?...

     davidk@ISI.EDU writes:
     The not existing (yet) IRE (or what it is called now) IETF working
     group that would deal with the *IP* registries future has also already
     proposed a spin-off working group that would be dealing with database
     (format) issues and the like. One of the the identified problems is the
     NIC handle and registry identifier. I am currently writing (together
     with David Conrad) a proposed charter for a working group that would
     deal with these kind of issues. It seems that the data availability
     issues for domain registries are very similar to IP address space
     registries. I think that it might be a good idea if we join our efforts
     ;-).

     Is this part of the Operational Requirements Area? --davecb

Domain name prefix search (Merton Campbell Crockett)
     One of the issues raised on the IETF mailing list was the problem of
     DNS being used as a search engine. Several people suggested that the
     publishers of Web Browsers include search engines that would query a
     registry for the desired domain name.

     No known group yet... Possibly related groups in the applications area
     are
        o Access, Searching and Indexing of Directories (asid)
        o Common Indexing Protocol (find) (Applications Area)
        o Integrated Directory Services (ids)
        o Uniform Resource Names (urn)
     and just possibly
        o Service Location Protocol (svrloc) (Internet Area)

Authentication of Domain Names (Tony Rutkowski)
     ie, DukeU.com.

     No known group yet... Possibly in the Security area?

DNS Requirements (Leonid Egoshin)
     IMHO, any attempt of solving .COM problem without technology change of
     DNS as search engine could be unsuccessfull (it would have problems
     with legacy of names etc). Also any attempt to shift search fully
     outside DNS will be failed (partially shift to directory service is
     today). From this I think would be usefull for IAHC to discuss any ways
     of DNS technology change.

     The current DNS working groups are:
        o DNS IXFR, Notification, and Dynamic Update (dnsind) (Internet
          Area)
        o Domain Name System Security (dnssec) (Security Area)

Root nameserver issues (Merton Campbell Crockett)
     How will a root nameserver with incomplete knowledge "discover" another
     root nameserver? A different part of the broad DNS question: working
     groups as above.

National TLDs (Tristan Palmer)
     ...from a UK perspective. Secondly I would like to discuss the problems
     raised by monopoly of the name spaces, and to see if my...

     No suitable group at least thus far, and in part a question for each
     national registry.

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2. What About Current TLDs?

Ronald J. Fitzherbert asks (by implication) if...
     the current ones should be part of the new process. Ie., we go back to
     ground 0 and re-evaluate the current iTLDs and registry as part of this
     process with the possibility of giving the current iTLDs to another
     registry, or eliminating some or all of them based upon the selection
     criteria that comes out of the IAHC.
No Official Statement has been made.
Dave Crocker notes
     The topic has certainly come up. I don't know what is reasonable or
     possible with respect to their current agreement.[...] Trying to figure
     out the right DIRECTION to move, however, does seem like something we
     can do sooner rather than later.>I>

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3. Will IAHC Consider Whether or not to Have New iTLDs?

Vince Wolodkin asks if
     the IAHC was going to consider that new iTLD's may not be the answer.
No Official Statement has been made.
Perry E. Metzger notes (pending an official comment) that
     We therefore made a principled decision not to assume before the fact
     that new iTLDs were the only possible solution. They are a very strong
     possibility, but we prefer to come to that conclusion after doing our
     work, not before.

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4. What About Government Proceedings?

Tony Rutkowski (I think!) asks
     Given two governmental official public proceedings in the matter - in
     both the US and Europe - shouldn't any decisions, much less actions,
     await the completion of those proceedings?
No Official Statement has been made.
Robert Shaw notes
     If you're speaking about the joint USPTO/NTIA hearings, we are in
     constant liaison with USPTO reps to track what they are doing.

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Dave Collier-Brown / davecb@canada.sun.com / davecb@hobbes.ss.org
Title: An Unofficial IAHC FAQ

An Unofficial IAHC Faq

This list of collected questions and putative answrs will be posted weekly to the list, probably on Fridays. It is NOT the official opinion of the committee or its membership, but I will do my best to make it reflect the discussion. In other words, I'll try real hard not to lie (:-))

This commenced with the list of technical subjects that I suggested the IAHC keep and eventually publish. Since I suggested it, looks like I volunteered to do it... --davecb


Questions

  1. Subjects the ad-hoc committee isn't addressing:
  2. What about current TLDs?
  3. Will IAHC consider whether or not to have new iTLDs?
  4. What about government proceedings?


1. Subjects the Ad-Hoc Committee Isn't Addressing

Each of the following is an area that this committee shouldn't be addressing, and the IETF working group that is or arguably should be addressing it. Working groups may also be found at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/wg-dir.html.

Registry Identifiers (Rick H. Wesson)
... how a registry manages contact, domain, and name server handles? If so should some one write a proposal on how these identifiers are to be handled?...

davidk@ISI.EDU writes:
The not existing (yet) IRE (or what it is called now) IETF working group that would deal with the *IP* registries future has also already proposed a spin-off working group that would be dealing with database (format) issues and the like. One of the the identified problems is the NIC handle and registry identifier. I am currently writing (together with David Conrad) a proposed charter for a working group that would deal with these kind of issues. It seems that the data availability issues for domain registries are very similar to IP address space registries. I think that it might be a good idea if we join our efforts ;-).

Is this part of the Operational Requirements Area? --davecb

Domain name prefix search (Merton Campbell Crockett)
One of the issues raised on the IETF mailing list was the problem of DNS being used as a search engine. Several people suggested that the publishers of Web Browsers include search engines that would query a registry for the desired domain name.

No known group yet... Possibly related groups in the applications area are

and just possibly

Authentication of Domain Names (Tony Rutkowski)
ie, DukeU.com.

No known group yet... Possibly in the Security area?

DNS Requirements (Leonid Egoshin)
IMHO, any attempt of solving .COM problem without technology change of DNS as search engine could be unsuccessfull (it would have problems with legacy of names etc). Also any attempt to shift search fully outside DNS will be failed (partially shift to directory service is today). From this I think would be usefull for IAHC to discuss any ways of DNS technology change.

The current DNS working groups are:

Root nameserver issues (Merton Campbell Crockett)
How will a root nameserver with incomplete knowledge "discover" another root nameserver? A different part of the broad DNS question: working groups as above.

National TLDs (Tristan Palmer)
...from a UK perspective. Secondly I would like to discuss the problems raised by monopoly of the name spaces, and to see if my...

No suitable group at least thus far, and in part a question for each national registry.


2. What About Current TLDs?

Ronald J. Fitzherbert asks (by implication) if...
the current ones should be part of the new process. Ie., we go back to ground 0 and re-evaluate the current iTLDs and registry as part of this process with the possibility of giving the current iTLDs to another registry, or eliminating some or all of them based upon the selection criteria that comes out of the IAHC.
No Official Statement has been made.
Dave Crocker notes
The topic has certainly come up. I don't know what is reasonable or possible with respect to their current agreement.[...] Trying to figure out the right DIRECTION to move, however, does seem like something we can do sooner rather than later.>I>


3. Will IAHC Consider Whether or not to Have New iTLDs?

Vince Wolodkin asks if
the IAHC was going to consider that new iTLD's may not be the answer.
No Official Statement has been made.
Perry E. Metzger notes (pending an official comment) that
We therefore made a principled decision not to assume before the fact that new iTLDs were the only possible solution. They are a very strong possibility, but we prefer to come to that conclusion after doing our work, not before.


4. What About Government Proceedings?

Tony Rutkowski (I think!) asks
Given two governmental official public proceedings in the matter - in both the US and Europe - shouldn't any decisions, much less actions, await the completion of those proceedings?
No Official Statement has been made.
Robert Shaw notes
If you're speaking about the joint USPTO/NTIA hearings, we are in constant liaison with USPTO reps to track what they are doing.


Dave Collier-Brown / davecb@canada.sun.com / davecb@hobbes.ss.org