Re: Comments on Karl's draft

[Karl Denninger <karl@Mcs.Net>]

> Hank Nussbacher allegedly said:
> > 
> > >
> > >Technical Requirements
> > >======================
> > >
> > >A commercial or other interest which wishes to operate a TLD shall
> > >propose to the IANA the assignment of that domain, and include with its
> > >application for same the following information:
> > >
> > >1)      A diagram substantiating full multi-homed connectivity to the
> > >        organization's computers which will serve that top-level
> > >        domain, with each leg of that connectivity being at a
> > >        non-aggregated data rate of 1.536Mbps (US standard ESF/B8ZS T1)
> > >        or better.  Route advertisement via BGP4 for this organization's
> > >        connectivity must be operational for at least two of the connections
> > >        maintained under this multi-homed provision, and the network involved
> > >        should be operating in a "defaultless" configuration.
> > 
> > This might be valid for 1996.  It probably won't be for 1998.  I
> > would specify a time frame as well as when such a rule would need to
> > be revised.  I would also specify that the total aggregated
> > bandwidth by T3 or better.  Having just two T1s doesn't cut it
> > anymore.  Your section also leaves the ability for me to connect up
> > via T1 to two upstream ISPs - which are only connected via T1 (or
> > even less) to a major - who in turn connects to a NAP.  I would go
> > for NAP/IX interconnection at at least 2 sites in addition to
> > multi-homing.
> 
> Au contraire! All such details should be removed from the draft, for
> several reasons: 1) it would essentially prevent someone in a
> developing country from running an international registry, 2) there is
> no such requirement for the ISO domains, 3) this is getting too far
> towards specifying implementation, instead of just requirements, 4)
> for monopoly TLDs, the free market can decide if service for that TLD
> is adequate, and for shared TLDs there will be many nameservers for 
> the TLD.

Hmmm... That does make sense.  What I was trying to do here was assuage the
whole "someone will run a registry on a 14.4 dialup line" problem.

The bottom line, really, is that for most TLDs a T1 is more than sufficient
(a SINGLE T1) -- even .ORG is probably reasonably-servable via a T1 at
present.  DNS queries are really quite small.

However, you're wrong about one thing.  Nothing prevents a registry from
satisfying this requirement by outsourcing the ACTUAL nameservers.  That is,
if you're in a developing country, you run one nameserver and contract out
on mutually agreeable terms to some other provider the other one.

That satisfies the requirements (by *DEFINITION* you're multi-homed then :-)

That was the intent, by the way... if I'm not delivering on the intent then
the language needs to be changed... :-)

> > >4)      An administrative fee of US $500 per annum per TLD to be paid to
> > >        the ISOC for its oversight of this process.  The ISOC may delegate
> > >        this fee structure and disbursement of funds through open, public
> > >        procedure as it sees fit.
> > 
> > Do you really think $500/yr is enough to cover all the paperwork,
> > all the details you listed in section "ISOC/IANA responsibilities",
> > dispute resolution, lawyers, deletion, transfer of TLDs, etc.?
> 
> Let's see $500/yr * (say) 200 TLDs, that's $100,000 dollars per
> year.  It's an old trick -- emasculate the regulating agency by
> cutting funding.  In this case it would provide heavy pressure to 
> create several thousand TLDs.

No.

If there is no significant traffic in TLDs then there is no siginificant
expense.

There is NO REASON, other than fattening someone's wallet, to hand over
money unless there is actual service being provided.

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