Re: Responses to Responses

[rick@yujean.com (Net Sales)]

Re: Letter from Marc Hurst:

>> the PTO (Patent & Trademark Office for those of you
>> who aren't familiar with the acronym) and probably courts around the world.
>
>I am sure that the PTO can mean many different things in many different
>countries...
Which is exactly why I explained what I meant by PTO.

>>The Red Cross and the Olympic Committee (who have a super
>> trademark in the US) come immediately to mind.
>
>Would not that be the International Olympic Committee?
No.  A US law would not apply to the International Olympic Committee; it
covers the US Olympic Committee.


>> But don't presume that what you've heard from critics about Americans and
>> courts is true.
>
>No, I am an American citizen living abroad and I KNOW its true...
IT's not.  Maybe you should come home. Maybe you should actually talk to
lawyers and judges and litigants.  Maybe you shouldn't believe everything
you read.

>Taxpayers? My government is giving me money to buy equipment and pull
>fibre between cities..

EXCUSE ME?  Who the hell do you think funds the goverment?  You think they
rob banks?

>No, Ignorance generates conflict...
My point exactly.  So inform yourself before you shoot off at the mouth.

>> >>3. Laws will become necessary
>> Yes, but who's going to pass them and who's going to enforce them?  See
>> comments below of treaties which is probably as good as it's going to get
>> internationally until and unless a true World Court exists.

>Oh, I guess the Hague is just the name of your former Secretary of State...
What the hell is your problem?  You have a point to this comment?

>Yes, but a properly described DNS model would eliminate confusion between
>say Hershey (Pa) city library and the Hershey Chocololate (Corp?) (even
>though they do share heritage).
Yes, true.  What is your point?  The question is and remains, what does
such a "properly described DNS model" look like?

>And if you have the Ontario (Canada) Toyota dealers association and the
>Ontario (California) (both could be "on.ca" in the string) what do you do?
Exactly -- that's the problem.  What DO you do?

>In Canada all of our judges are graduated up the bench on merit and
>seniority or are appointed by Provincial and Federal cabinets. They do
>not run for election as they do in the States.
You said you were a US citizen, so why are Canadian judges "yours"?
And not all US judges are elected.  Federal judges are appointed and go up
thru the ranks.  And you are incredibly naive if you think there's no
politics involved in the Canadian appointments, just as it is in US ones.

>>In regards to
>lawyers making the best politicians that is a falacy.

I never said word one about lawyers making "the best" or any other kind of
politicians.  I said that many politicians ARE lawyers.  That's not a
quality  judgment; it's merely a fact.
I suggest you read what is written BEFORE you comment on what it doesn't say.

>
>Ill sign off here.. I apologize profusly for the noise created here.
>Carol's ignorance of how things actually occur outside the United States
>is insulting to the rest of us. I am more concerned that Kim Loon Sing
>gets more of a fair shake in Singapore than Michael Memra gets in my own
>back yard... (sorry Mike)
Marc, you're an idiot.  You are the worst kind of idiot -- one who doesn't
want to know the facts or listen to other points of view.  I will NOT
apologize for you and you are a rude and arrogant idiot.

>Bottom line everyone seems to be ignoring the difference of culture that
>plays the biggest role in how disputes are resolved. I have had positive
>response from everywhere except the U.S. where everyone seems to be
>preoccupied with suing or being sued......
Bottom line is that you are ignoring the facts here.  Culture has zip to do
with it.  There is a problem.  It concerns ISPs.  It concerns lawyers.  It
concerns businesspeople and individuals.  Learn the fact.  Arm yourself
with the arguments.  THEN convince people that your position (and I'll be
damned if I know what it is, after this blithering post) is right.

>Go ahead .... FLAME ME!!! Most outside the western hemisphere agree with
>me... Do you want the signee below representing the future of your trade
>as a status quo?
You are truly a stupid human being and not at all worth the fuel involved
in a flame.  Has it occurred to you that you speak for noone but yourself?
It is the ultimate in arrogance to assert that you speak for the entire
non-western hemisphere.  Good grief, man.  Get a grip.

To those of you both outside and inside the Western Hemisphere:  I assume
that you, unlike Mr. Hurst, are intelligent beings interested in a solution
not in a anti-US diatribe.  We need one.  I hope you guys come up with it
because it'll make my work as a lawyer trying to figure this out and advise
clients a whole lot easier.

Carol Cricow

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