Re: An observation

[durrell@innocence.com (Bryant Durrell)]

Christopher Ambler writes:
> >>Seriously, the room was loaded with engineers with personal principles
> >>based mostly upon the traditional academic internet. The advertising
> >>and marketing community was not represented at all.
> >
> >	Simon, this is a common belief and it is wrong.  There were 2,000
> >people at that IETF and most had not been to an IETF meeting before.  The
> >'traditional' ietf community comprises a few hundred folk, at most.  Since
> >I was the first commercial participant in an ietf I can tell you that
> >before things got commercial, there were about 40 participants.
> >
> >	To repeat:  The vast majority of ietf attendees are part of a
> >commercial enterprise.  Assigning them the role of 'academic' suggests that
> >they do not appreciate or subscribe to the goals of their employer.  This,
> >I think, is follie.
> 
> Sure, there were plenty of commercial participants, but they WERE NOT AT 
> THE IAHC MEETING.

The original question that led to this thread, as I recall, was whether
or not the IAHC listened to people AT THE IAHC MEETING.  I think it's
been established that they did.  Can we move on to another topic now?

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