Re: Specific Questions

[Hank Nussbacher <hank@ibm.net.il>]

On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Karl Denninger wrote:

> > On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Karl Denninger wrote:
> > 
> > > I can easily equip an office of 20 people with LAPTOPS up to this job for
> > > under $3,000 per person.  That's $60K.
> > 
> > And what is your hourly rate and how long will it take you to complete the
> > job including installing the ISDN connections in Israel, Japan,
> > Switzerland and Australia not to mention 5 US cities? If you were willing
> > to donate this equipment and services then you should have spoken up
> > months ago.  
> 
> Why should I?  Everyone ELSE is doing this and being reimbursed.....
> 
> Oh, I get it.  I should donate my time and expertise, not to mention
> hardware, while everyone else gets paid.  Bite me.

For the causal reader who may not read every posting of the 250+ per day
I do not get paid nor does anyone else on the IAHC.  In fact, I currently
lost about 50 billable hours in December. 

> 
> > > But $400,000 worth of expensive?  You only get THAT by paying people's
> > >conference call bills and airline tickets.  
> > 
> > You are now mixing Apples and Oranges. Prior to this we were discussing
> > the operation of the IAHC itself which is mainly meetings and discussions.
> > You are now moving into the selection procedure for qualified registries
> > which is wuite different. At that stage it will require an office with a
> > staff of at least one person. It will require paying an internationally
> > reputable accounting firm to check out applicants in whatever country they
> >may originate and to certify that the lottery is properly conducted. It
> > will require a competent international law firm to draw up contracts that
> > will be acceptable in all countries which registry applicants come from. 
> 
> .....
> 
> In other words, we draft a document that radically increases costs, we
> implement it in the most costly fashion, we design a process that is
> inherently expensive, and then we bill the users.
> 
> Even though all of these things could have been avoided.
> 
> People should IMHO say "bite me" to that process as well.
> 
> > The whole CORE process and database will need to be set up which requires
> > six servers to be set up with the database software and a team of
> > programmers to be hired to implement the registry application and verify
> > it's correctness and the ability to properly failover. These servers then
> > have to be deployed in pairs to three different colo sites that are both
> > geographically and topologically distributed.
> 
> Again, that's a result of a flawed process which was DESIGNED to be
> expensive.
> 
> > > There are less expensive ways to do this.
> > 
> > Sure there are. But the users of the Internet don't want to use a network
> > that's held together with string and sealing wax. That's why the thousands
> > of miles of barbed wire in North America aren't being used to carry IP
> > traffic even though they are cheap.
> 
> Oh really?  You mean like the existing root server infrastructure?
> 
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Hank Nussbacher
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