Re: understanding consensus

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Kevin,

  I made this same comment to Derrell as well.  Seems that he think's
it is a childish idea, as one of his posts will(Has) indicated.  Your
concern is shared with others I am sure.  Once you have set yourself
up as a public entity, than you should be open in ALL respects with
the public.  

Regards,


Kevin Brown wrote:
> 
> Philip,
> 
> If you or anyone wants privacy, don't get involved. I feel we all have a
> right to see information presented to the IAHC. Privacy allows back room
> deals to be struck. I am not saying that any back room deals are going
> down, but in my experience, keep it public. This is a process that will
> affect millions. If you say it, I want to know.
> 
> Nothing on thie subject should be in confidence.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> At 23:54 +0300 28/12/96, Philip J. Nesser II wrote:
> >Christopher Ambler supposedly said:
> >>
> >> Then that begs the question - if this is such a hot topic, where are
> >> all the posters? If this topic is such that only 10 people are making
> >> the vast majority of the posts, and there seems to be agreement
> >> amongst most of them on some points, wouldn't that suggest that
> >> most people, while interested, don't care?
> >>
> >> If the IAHC is getting comments from outside of this list - the list
> >> that THEY set up to discuss this issue - they should post it here so
> >> we can accurately gauge the opinions of those who care to give them.
> >>
> >> As to the rest, the lurkers, they are urged to speak up, but nobody
> >> can force them. If consensus is made by 20 people when only 20
> >> people care to speak, then so be it, no?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Christopher Ambler
> >> President, Image Online Design, Inc.
> >>
> >
> >Chris,
> >
> >I would point out that many people feel that they can watch the discussion
> >and make an informed decision privately with the IAHC members.  There have
> >been a large number of personal attacks made by people against posters who
> >do not share their opinions, and many people do not care to expose
> >themselves to such attacks.
> >
> >I don't think it is reasonable to demand or expect that all communications
> >to the IAHC members be posted to the list.  Certainly any message posted to
> >the list should be publically available, but do you expect every IAHC
> >member to transcribe their phone calls, retype faxes in, or post private
> >email which many have been sent in confidence?
> >
> >--->  Phil
> 
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