Re: Notes (fwd)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Chris,

  DOn't get discouraged of disheartned.  That is the exact intent that
Darrell and Joe want.  Several of your suggestions partaining to
points of discussion on the DRAFT have been good and intresting points
for thought.  Darrell and Joe, I hope will come around to directing
their comments to the DRAFT at some point.  Let's all hope so.

  IAHC members, you need to take some control in these matters if
there is to be a resolution to disputed points on this draft to
be resolved.  Just a word to the wise....

Christopher Ambler wrote:
> 
> > At 4:26 PM -0800 1/2/97, Christopher Ambler wrote
> 
> >  >This is getting us nowhere.
> 
> > Oh, I wouldn't say that. Your credibility is getting on a par with Jeff's.
> 
> I find it disheartening that my credibility is being judged based on the
> impression that others are presenting based on what they THINK happened at
> a meeting that they did not attend. What has been posted and said publically
> is of absolutely no importance to what was said at the meeting. Michael has
> posted many messages directly contradicting what I'm claiming, - that's not
> disputed by me at all - but nobody has come out and said that Bill Manning
> did not make the statements that I claim he made. Would anyone like to do
> that? If so, I'd love to know how you know, not being at the meeting.
> 
> Simon, who was at the meeting, has said that Bill did, indeed, make those
> statements. Simon seems to think that Bill intended his statements to mean
> experimentally, whereas I do not. So we have a difference of opinion.
> 
> Ultimately, this will come down to a decision by a third party, and at this
> point I would welcome that. I want the simple event to be judged by facts, and
> only a handfull of people have those facts. For now, I just don't care anymore.
> Think what you wish, do what you wish, and we'll all wait for events to play
> themselves out.
> 
> As for my credibility, I find it hard to worry about the impression you have
> of me on a list where we have committee members' paranoia making them
> think that someone is sending them death threats, he-said she-said arguments
> by people who have no firsthand knowledge of events, flaming, personal
> attacks, rhetoric, straw men, red herrings, name-calling, people going to
> great lengths to prove that someone is a teenager, and temper tantrums.
> 
> Personally, I'm ashamed at this group of 5-year olds, and I cannot help but
> think that the media and the public are laughing at us all. We cannot come up
> with a workable solution to save our lives, and this is rapidly decaying into
> what will become lawsuits and government intervention. This entire process
> disgusts me to no end.
> 
> I wish the 31st would hurry up and arrive, so we can be done with this
> laughable chapter in Internet history and get on with our business.
> 
> --
> Christopher Ambler
> President, Image Online Design, Inc.

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