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Re: Repository services and budget



The numbers below look pretty reasonable.  The only one I would question
is the NOC support people.  In my experience running a computer center,
if you want three people you either need to hire 5 or contract with a
organization who will ensure that you have a qualified person on your
site every shift every day.  You will also have to cover 7 days a week
so I might double your number.  By my figures 24 x 7 at roughly $25/hour
for qualified personnel through a contracting outfit will cost about
$240,000, bumping the grand total to just over $1.5 million.

Vince Wolodkin

Rick H. Wesson wrote:
> 
> On Jan 13,  2:23pm, Dave Crocker wrote:
> > Subject: Re: Repository services and budget
> >
> > >
> > >> >You are not going to be able to do this under a million dollars and
> > >> >guarantee round the clock service to the internet community. Registrars
> > >>
> > >>         Please provide a detailed budget and an explanation for the
> > >> functions provided by each line item.
> >
> >       Yes, it is necessary.  A detailed budget produced a result that was
> > 1/2-1/4 the estimate cited here.  If one is going to assert that a budget
> > needs to be 2-4 times larger, one should provide the basis for the
> > estimate.  In the absence of such detail, the estimate is merely a handwave.
> >
> Dave,
> 
> Your estimate was for a cripled set of linux boxen, and provides little
> insentive for those that run the thing for any type of excellance. If
> business are going to invest in running a Registry, it had better dam
> well work 24 hours a day and 7 daze a week!
> 
> Ongoing
> ===============================================
> 3 software developers   80K each/yr     240,000
> 3 T-1 Connections       12K each/yr      36,000
> 1 Manager/Director                      120,000
> 3 Rotateing 24/7
>     NOC support ppl     35K each/yr     105,000
> Travel                                   80,000
> Telephone                                35,000
> Legal Team                              125,000
> 
> Startup
> ==============================================
> Routers                                  25,000
> Database Software                        45,000
> PC/Unix workstations    10@5K eack       50,000
> Database Servers        3@30K each       90,000
> RAID disk Storage                        30,000
> Online Backup.                           30,000
> 
>                         Sub Total      1,011,000
> 
> If you add public key crypto and/or distribute whitepages info add.
> RSA/IDEA License                         45,000
> 3 dispute resolution staff              150,000
> 2 developers (pgp keyring)              160,000
> 1 server to publish the keyring          20,000
> 
>                         Sub Total       375,000
> 
>                         Grand Total   1,386,000
> 
> The CORE database is to be used by BUSINESSES that are to be providing
> COMPETITIVE services against NSI. Why should it not be done as robustly
> as possable? Afterall these businesses are betting their livelyhood on the
> reliblity of this system.
> 
> It does puzzle me as to why the IAHC does not want to discuss the functionality
> of the CORE repository, as that functionality defines what and how services
> are sold by the registrys that win the lottery.
> 
> I run a business and need much more than a gut feeling about the viability of
> a domain registry to determin if it is worthwhile to persue submitting a,
> yet to be defined, application to run a registry.
> 
> I would like to add that if the CORE repository is run at a fixed cost,
> then there is no privisions for growth. That is the main reason
> NSI started chargeing for domain names in the first place, they couldn't
> handle the growth.
> 
> If all this is to be determined by the CORE I could only say that for the first
> time "on the wire" protocols will be defined by a small closed group and not
> by a Working Group process. Is this wize?
> 
> -Rick (waiving hand)
> 
> --
> Rick H. Wesson