Re: Rouge Servers ... Please ... that's below the belt.

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Adam,

  By now most people that I have come in contact with in the internet
community don't give much credance to Dave C's remarks anymore.  I do
realize that once in a GREAT while he has something that is useful to
say.

  His continuing rude and malicious attacks on others character are
well documented.  It may be time to put ou a page highlighting them.
I have a very nice collection if you are intrested?

  

Adam wrote:
> 
> >From:  Dave Crocker / IMC[SMTP:dcrocker@IMC.ORG]
> >Sent:  Friday, July 18, 1997 11:59 AM
> >To:    DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET
> >Subject:       Re: Iperdome Press Release!
> >
> >At 10:37 AM 7/18/97 -0400, Jay Fenello wrote:
> >>>Is it true that Iperdome has been able to get the .PER
> >>>Top Level Domain registry data base listed in ALL of the
> >>>major Root Name Server Confederations, except the
> >>>one controlled by the U.S. Government ?
> >>
> >>Yes.
> 
> Ditto Jay, you have done a great job, even convincing me at my early
> announcement of Root Server Services for AU.
> 
> >        The latter group of root servers are the primary root servers for the
> >Internet and they are not controlled by the US government.  They are
> >controlled by IANA.  The distinction is basic and important.
> >
> >        Other sets of root servers have minimal use on the internet, were
> >established in a rogue manner, are operated in a rogue manner, and
> >basically lack meaningful accountability.
> 
> I'd like to know how long Dave is going to continue to insult our
> intelligence.  A ROOT SERVER by definition does not belong to anyone.  In
> fact a Root Server has one primary function.  To provide direction as to
> how to get to or where to get information about a Host.
> 
> It does not have to be located anywhere in particular.  As long as any root
> server can find any other root server and all the DN Servers connected to
> one side of that ROOT SERVER can access it and it can get any other data as
> to how to go beyond it, you have a sufficient ROOT SERVER.  Generically
> speaking.
> 
> Dave, I'm getting a little irrate at being called "Rouge" and certainly
> take great offence to having my company, my personal skills and 12 months
> of planning and campaigning called "rouge establishemnt".
> 
> It's clear my by the number of supporters and users of my service alone
> that we are far from ROGUE.
> 
> In fact are you aware that since AURSC's inception we have saved those
> ISP's using our ROOT Servers considerable $$$$ off their bill.
> 
> Again I reitterate that in Australi we pay the cost of received traffic.
> As 80% of DNS requests come from outside of Australia for USA and
> international sites, having ONE server here govern the rest of the DN
> Services in AU has a major benefit.  i only have to get the traffic once on
> the international circuit.
> 
> After i have it all the AU ISP's can take advantage of the 8 cent per
> megabyte (instead of 23 and 19 cents charges for international) tranfer of
> the Domain Name.
> 
> And I'm doing this for FREE.  No charges.  No $10,000 non refundable
> application fee.
> 
> I'm even offering my Registry software to all ISP's so they can run the
> Domain Registry business and make a few dollars as well.
> 
> I'd say there is more than "rouge establishment" involved in this project.
> 
> I'd also like to further comment on the fact that you constantly claim the
> IANA (?) Owned Root Servers are the "ONLY" true Root Servers.
> 
> If I had a private network not connected to *YOUR* internet, I could run
> any domain name sequences I liked.  Does this mean my global private
> corporate network DOES NOT have a ROOT SERVER?
> 
> Now if Dave can't bother answering that question, then the true merits of
> his actions and comments are clear.
> 
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> Phone +61 2 9729 0565                     Network  http://www.ah.net
> 
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Regards,
-- 
Jeffrey A. Williams
DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java Development Eng.
Information Eng. Group. IEG. INC. 
Phone :913-294-2375 (v-office)
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com