Re: POC membership [was : Re: The Price of Admission is...]

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Andi and all,

andi payn wrote:
> 
> Jeff Williams:
> >> > >   Will the method of selecting ISP representitives be posted
> >> > > or the gTLD-MoU site?
> 
> Amadeu Abril i Abril:
> >> Not aonly that, Jeff. As for the whole process YOU are asked what your
> preferred
> >> mix would be. Last Saturday iPOC issued a Request for Comments (or
> whatever you
> >> want to call it) asking YOU (yes, you too, Jeff) ideas about iPOC
> compostion.
> >> Please note that we don't only ask for "how many ISP reps should be
> there" of
> >> "how many Canadians" (or Catalans, for that matter) but rahter ask your
> views
> >> on:
> 
> I am very happy about the two RFCs that iPOC has posted, asking for comments
> on how POC should be structured and what the initial set of new gTLDs should
> be. I'm working on comments now, and I'd hope that everyone who is critical
> of the current MoU structure any thinks there's any point to working on it
> will do the same.

  I will and alresdy have on this forum.  But will coalate them for
another spicific response to this RFC.
> 
> I'll comment here on Jeff's preliminary comments.
> 
> Jeff Williams:
> >  Any and all users are constituencies.  There are 3 to 4 classes.  They
> >are Domain name holders, General users(those whom have an E-Mail
> >address),
> >other commercial, and educational.
> 
> Existing domain name holders are an important class that I think they forgot
> to mention in the RFC. They do include end users, and various classes of
> commercial entities. I think that educational entities may be able to fit in
> the categories they included, but it might be worth giving them separate
> representation.

  I believe that inorder to Educational to have a real standing they
need to be individualy represented.
> 
> >> * How the reps of your preferred classes shpuld be nominated
> >
> >  They should be elected not nominated from their industry class or
> >group.
> 
> I think a two-step process, as used in many democratic elections, might be
> better. First, any interested party within the class could put forth
> nominations on the gTLD-MoU site. Anyone with two nominations would then be
> entered into the elections.

  I think you mean any entity or group that nominates two OR MORE 
people should be entered on a ballot for election.  If this is
what you mean I can agree to this method.  Remember time is of the
essance.
That in mind each group should be given 30 days statring on a spicific
date to determine its nominations.
> 
> >> * How should they be elected.
> >
> >  In a general election on the gTLD-MoU site.
> 
> I'd have a simple form listing all nominees (from the first step above) and
> a write-in slot. Each entity (person, commercial entity, etc., depending on
> class) gets one vote. There is some question as to how to very fair
> elections in such a vote.

   Use what most election commisions use.
> 
> For individual voting, the issue is complicated by the fact that a single
> person can have more than one email address (e.g., multiple screen names on
> AOL, Hotmail mailboxes, iName forwarding addresses, addresses from multiple
> departments in a University, even just multiple mail hosts on the same
> network, etc.). It's just as possible to have multiple "verifiable"
> addresses whether you're using signed PGP keys, First Virtual, etc. For
> example, I have three different machines that I run Netscape from, and each
> one "uniquely" verifies me as a different person. I also have multiple email
> addresses and PGP keys for all of them. For that matter, if we use, say,
> Netscape's unique verification, what happens to people who can't run
> Netscape 3 or 4 (e.g., users of MkLinux, AmigaOS, DOS, etc.) or just don't
> have a copy?

  Dos is not a problem as far as access.  The other two you mention 
are.  Not much you can do about this.  They are really not members of
the Internet community at any rate.  

  As to the multipul E-Mail addresses.  I can simplify this very
easly.  "One man/woman one vote."  Those found using morethan one
E-Mail address to vote multipul times will find their vote not
being counted at all.  This can be determined very easely.
> 
> For organizational voting, there's a question of how to qualify
> organizations. If I have a personal dba, does it qualify as a company? What
> if I have three? What if a company has multiple divisions that are
> incorporated separately?

  We are in the latter catagory you mention here.  Not only that we
may even be in seperate groups.  (ISP and software development company).
But be that as it may.  "One man/women one vote should suffice".
> 
> I don't think that these issues are unsolvable, but they're clearly a
> problem that we have to start working on now.

  The avalible technology for determining most of the problems you
Mention ( Multipul E-mails) is easily determined.  ( Use SATIN). Hint.

Regards,
-- 
Jeffrey A. Williams
DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java Development Eng.
Information Eng. Group. IEG. INC. 
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