Jeff Williams and his fantasies (was Re: combinedshared/private?

[Darrell Greenwood <Darrell_Greenwood@mindlink.net>]

At 3:02 PM +0100 10/4/97, Jeff Williams wrote:

>And as an old network manager myself I can identify
>compleatly.  However, there are times where some radical change is
>needed and an advantage.  i know this becouse I have done it
>on a much smaller basis than the Internet myself, all be it
>was the largest privatly owned network at that time.

I am forwarding below, from another list, what I believe to be a
astute posting on Jeff and his fantasies :-)

Cheers,

Darrell


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Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:44:02 -0700
Reply-To: Kent Crispin <kent@SONGBIRD.COM>
Sender: Owner-Domain-Policy <owner-domain-policy@internic.net>
From: Kent Crispin <kent@SONGBIRD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Trademark Disputes
To: DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET

On Fri, Sep 26, 1997 at 07:18:06PM +0100, Jeff Williams wrote:
> Frederic and all,
[...]
>
>   No you are not DIRECTLY calling me anything, but you are insinuating
> that I am not compleatly honest.

Another possibility is that you are deluded.

> I will leave it at that.  That is called
> smearing from my experiance.  And it really is a disgusting to see, at
> least in my opinion especially from someone in the practicing legal
> arena.  Just terribly disgusting.

Jeff, I don't care if you really are a lawyer or not.  I don't care
who you work for, where you live, or what you might try to hide.  I
wouldn't care at all what fantasies you care to live under, if you
actually made worthwhile contributions to this or any other of the
lists that you haunt.  But you don't.  Instead, you produce barely
coherent rambles interspersed in large volumes of quoted text.  It's
got to the point where the volume of noise words in your posts is
simply too great to make it worthwhile to look for anything
meaningful.  The only mildly interesting thing left is poking at your
obvious deceptions.

And you are right: it is an unkind and unprofessional thing for people
to poke at you like this.  It would be much more humane and polite to
humor you, and pretend that you were a serious person, instead of the
sad, strange mask we see.

But it is your choice that makes you a mask.  You have constructed a
fake persona with no easily verifiable real person behind it -- you
could be, for all we know, a clever AI bot programmed to consume
bandwidth on these mailing lists.

Mr Wilf refers to an "online community".  Such communities form,
ultimately, because there are real people involved.  People get to
know each other, some of them meet face to face, little bits of
personality get swapped.

But you are not part of this.  You can't afford to expose any real
details from your life, because your whole web of deception would
collapse.

>   My "Claims" as you call them are my claims.  If you don't believe them
> fine.

Jeff.  *Nobody* believes them.  People tolerate your transparent
deceptions, that's all.

You argue that who you are doesn't matter; that your opinions should
stand on their own.  That's a theory that doesn't hold in practice.
People always correlate opinions with characteristics of those who
hold those opinions -- this is an automatic psychological process.  A
lack of integrity in one area creates suspicion about integrity in
other areas.  Your inability or unwillingness to support your
statements about your experience, training, and education seriously
undermine any credibility you might enjoy.

The bottom line: fair or not, the burden of proof is on *you*.

--
Kent Crispin                            "No reason to get excited",
kent@songbird.com                       the thief he kindly spoke...
PGP fingerprint:   B1 8B 72 ED 55 21 5E 44  61 F4 58 0F 72 10 65 55
http://songbird.com/kent/pgp_key.html

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