Re: War of Internet Governance: 1995 -????

[Bob Allisat <tor@wtv.net>]

Kent wrote:
> In fact, many *individuals* could meet this requirement.  $10K is the
> cost of a cheap car; $300K is the median price of a single-family home
> in my area (admittedly, the SF Bay Area has a very expensive housing
> market.) For businesses the bar is pretty low -- tens of thousands, if
> not hundreds of thousands, of small businesses could easily meet these
> requirements.

 No average individual or small business
 in Sri Lanka, Senegal, Chile or most 
 nations on Earth could afford a sum
 remotely approaching this astronomic
 figure. No small business or individual
 I know here in Toronto can afford such
 a steep fee either. 

Helfin wrote:
>>The process cannot be an incubator for non-profits to 'flop' around and
>>try to flourish in.  What is the reasoning for allowing a mechanism for
>>non-profits to also participate?  Why do they need a 'no-fee' system so
>>they can exist? 

Crispin replied:
>And even more, there is plenty of room for non-profit registries.  
>"Non-profit" doesn't mean "without funds".

 Only in consumerist, computer professional
 America. In the rest of the society non-
 profit (read charity) means low/no money,
 volunteers, donations, going without so
 others may have a little more. This is a
 huge world and only the tiniest fraction
 is being represented in this discussion.

 If any of you doubt what I say come here
 to Toronto and I'll show you what non-
 profit means. In my neighbourhood. I defy
 any of you to find a community non-profit
 or charitable group with 5 staff, 10k and
 a 300k line of credit to spare. What sheer
 and utter bloody stupid nonsense.

 Myself and others want to create a FREEnic.
 And we sure as hell won't ever have that kind
 of money because it will be free. As in no
 or next to nothing funds. Interesting concept,
 eh? Free... something ya'll don't seem to get.

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 Bob Allisat

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