Re: registrar charging $30,000 for "platinum" pre-registration

[John Charles Broomfield <jbroom@manta.outremer.com>]

Of course not. There's no such thing as a GUARANTEE in just about any aspect
of the Internet. My *guess* is that once registrations start, those
currently approved registrars forming part of CORE will probably submit
their current list of requests on something like a round robin system. I'd
imagine that it would be one registration from each registrar starting with
the first one and going through to the last (I imagine that they'll throw
the dice to see who goes first or something), and then starting again from
the beginning. Those registrars whose queue ends will probably be "dropped"
until all queues are emptied.
What does this mean for the potencial applicant? If you want something
flashy like "SOMETHING-FLASHY.shop" (or .arts or .whatever) that you feel
EVERYONE is going to make a run for, then the earlier your petition gets
sent through, the more likely you are to get what you're asking for.
Of course, if a registrar that is strictly submitting on a FCFS basis with
no internal queue jumping sends "SOMETHING-FLASHY.shop" before your
registrar does, then you're out of luck. Also the round robin has the
advantage that it actually penalizes those companies who have been
pre-registering lots against those who have only started to pre-register
(a small company with only 10 preregistrations is going to have their
applications dealt with at the same time that the first 10 of the big
company, whereas the big company with 10.000 registrations is going to have
9990 registrations processed AFTER the small companies 10).
Of course, however, if you are the FIRST in any registrars queue, then your
chances of getting that domain are quite high (you'd only be beaten if
another registrar is asking for that same name, also has it positioned as
first in the queue and had the chance to go before your registrar in the
first round).
Remember of course that all the above is PURE SPECULATION and I believe that
CORE still has yet to decide what to do with preregistrations, and if they
are allowed, how exactly to deal with the backlog. So all I've just pointed
out could be a load of fantasy on my behalf.
Yours, John Broomfield.

> will this fee GUARANTEE registration?
> pat forrestal
> 
> On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Jeff Williams wrote:
> 
> > Paul and all,
> > 
> > Paul Stahura wrote:
> > > 
> > > I agree with Ed Sweeney.
> > > Registrars should be allowed to charge any price the wish:
> > > $30,000 or free.
> > > Our price will most likely be somewhere in between, but that is up to us.
> > 
> >   I would hope it will be somthing less than $30,000.00!  >;)  But I
> > believe the question or concern on this thread was regareing
> > Pre-registration.
> > 
> >   So Ed's comments really were not addressing this concern either.
> > > 
> > > Paul Stahura
> > > Syllogistics LLC (CORE #54)
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ed Sweeney <ed@sweeney.net.au>
> > > To: gtld-discuss@gtld-mou.org <gtld-discuss@gtld-mou.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, November 13, 1997 4:37 AM
> > > Subject: Re: registrar charging $30,000 for "platinum" pre-registration
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >To Mr Dimayuga and all interested parties I would like to point out that to
> > > >set a fixed price of $50 per name is otherwise known as "price fixing".
> > > >This is illegal and represents constraint of freedom of trade.  It is also
> > > >contrary to the free and competitive registration process which CORE was
> > > >formed to bring about.
> > > >
> > > >If the opening of registrations is dealt with in a "round robin" manner
> > > >then it is up to the individual registry and interested clients to come to
> > > >an agreement regarding not only price but the position of their application
> > > >in the registrar's queue.
> > > >
> > > >Some companies will require a service such as this to minimise the risk of
> > > >an "opportunist" registering their trademarked name.  Whilst the subject of
> > > >value is irrelevant (since interested parties are welcome to apply for
> > > >registration elsewhere) we feel this is likely to cost a lot less than a
> > > >lengthy legal battle.
> > > >
> > > >Currently we see nothing wrong with offering parties the opportunity to
> > > >upgrade their level of service by agreeing to an increased registration
> > > >fee.  This is one of the advantages of utilising a "smaller" registry.
> > > >Capital Networks has a committment to customer service at the highest
> > > >possible level.
> > > >
> > > >Ed Sweeney
> > > >Capital Networks Pty Ltd
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Arminda Dimayuga wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>if you don't believe me, point your browser to http://www.capital.net.au
> > > >>and see for yourself.
> > > >>
> > > >>$30,000 (US) for "platinum paid pre-registration", meaning that if you
> > > >>give them $30,000 (per domain name), they'll put your application near
> > > >>the beginning of their que.
> > > >>
> > > >>What do you all think about this kind of practice?
> > > >>
> > > >>I personally don't think that should be allowed.  I think that every
> > > >>registrar should be required to accept registration and pre-registration
> > > >>applications in a fair manner (i.e., first-come, first-serve), for a
> > > >>competitive price (e.g., $50).
> > > >>
> > > >>Arminda Dimayuga
> > > >>
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> > > >
> > 
> > Regards,
> > -- 
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
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