EuroISPA and ISPS in Europe signing the MOU

[Patrik Faltstrom <paf@swip.net>]

On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Jim Dixon wrote:

> Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.  I meant "organization of ISPs".  
> ISPA UK, for example, is an association of ISPs in the UK; EuroISPA
> is an umbrella organization, a grouping of the Internet trade
> associations of Europe with 500 or so members.  The US equivalent
> is the CIX, with 170 or so members.  
> 
> > > the gTLD MOU. I know of none that has done so.
> > ...
> > The following ISPs have signed the MoU and are also members of the
> > Policy Advisory Body
> > 
> > 	Digex
> > 	MCI
> > 	Mindspring
> > 	UUNet
> 
> Yes.  That's 4 out of 6,000 or so.  A healthy 0.07%.
> 
> > plus
> > 
> > 	APNIC
> > 	JPNIC
> > 	NIC-Mexico
> 
> I can't comment on these; but in general the NICs are technical 
> organizations without a policy mandate from their members.

They do have policy mandate from their members, within the area they work.

> > There are probably European and Asian ISPs who are well known in
> > their regions but I don't recognize and have left out.
> > 
> > These are from a membership list that is about 4 months old.  I'm
> > pretty sure there are others, and the list only includes those who
> > chose to also participate in PAB.  Unfortunately the signatory
> > links on the gTLD-MoU website are broken at the moment so I
> > can't give you more current information.
> 
> At the meeting in Brussels last week the POC's representatives 
> bragged about having 180 signatories.  While this is a 20% improvement
> over the last few months, it is still insignificant by any reasonable
> standard.  A 20% improvement on 0.07% gets you to ... 0.08% :-)

As all major ISPs in Europe has signed the MOU, I can not see why EuroISPA
has not signed yet. It is definitely something EuropISPA should do.

And, besides that, what is the better, see that one organisation of ISPs
sign the MOU, or the individual members of those organizations? For me,
it does not matter at all. It is even better if every ISP make up their
own mind, so we clearly see who supports and not.

> Jim Dixon                                                 Managing Director
> VBCnet GB Ltd                http://www.vbc.net        tel +44 117 929 1316
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Member of Council                                                 President
> Internet Services Providers Association                       EuroISPA EEIG
> http://www.ispa.org.uk                              http://www.euroispa.org
> tel +44 171 976 0679                                     tel +32 2 503 2265


Yes, I am a member of POC, but I am writing this as an employee of Tele2,
Sweden, an ISP which has signed the MOU, as has Telia, and many others in
Europe.

  Patrik Fältström