Re: RFC? IETF? What's That? (Was_Fwd: Re: The opening up of .

[Benjamin@Opiniao.com]

Alan M Weisberg wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> I don't think you're being totally fair to corporations who have made large
> investments in their intellectual property.
> 
> That aside, we all need to keep in mind that it was investments made by these
> corporations that legitimized and supported the expansion of the Internet.
> Without these investments, the Internet would not exist in its present state and
> would still be a toy for technologists and researchers supported by the State.
> 
> We should all learn to live with the trademark issues and concerns of
> corporations if it will continue to foster expansion of the global Net.
> 
> Alan M. Weisberg
> 


Alan and all,

I think we can provide them a proper space for registrations
just by creating CLOSED TLDs with registration only allowed 
to trademark owners.

This firts step will separated them from the crowd.

Even with this separation, we know there would be collision
between identical names.

So, to actually provide corporations with a proper domain 
naming space, we indeed need not a single TLD but some of 
them so that there is space for every trademark owner 
(We arrive now at some tm-class TLD structure).

And let generic, un-distingueshed TLD for the rest of users
that don't have a trademark or want/need additional domains.

No need to have corporations fighting for the fast-food (gTLDs)
if they have reservations for fine dinning (tm-class TLDs)

Benjamin Azevedo

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> Subject:    RFC? IETF? What's That? (Was_Fwd: Re: The opening up of .com
> Author: bob@wtv.net (Bob Allisat)
> Date:       1/23/98 5:42 AM
> 
> Jeff, quoting  RFC 1591:
> > Found this in RFC 1591 regarding the management of TLD's...
> >
> > "...3) The designated manager must be equitable to all groups in the domain
> > that request domain names.
> >
> > This means that the same rules are applied to all requests, all requests
> > must be processed in a non-discriminatory fashion, and academic and
> > commercial (and other) users are treated on an equal basis..."
> 
>  Since Jon Postel tore up the RFC process
>  by dropping deliberations concerning new
>  domain names onto some silly vapourgroup
>  committee no-one really refers to it any-
>  more. Get with the program, Jeff. Likewise
>  the IETF process of establishing asorted
>  technical guidelines for things like New
>  Domain Names has been tossed pretty much
>  out the window. Thanks JP.
> 
>  The reasons both the RFC process and IETF
>  have been dispensed with are complex. Primary
>  among these reasons is the fact that if the
>  process was followed we would have thousands
>  of Domain Name Registries in operation. Right
>  now. Without much fuss. Because there are no
>  technical limitations to having unlimited new
>  Top Level Domains and we were this close to
>  agreeing on an RFC back in 1995-6. When Jon
>  went nuts, created this bogus IAHC and then
>  started all the insanity that brought us to
>  our current stasis.
> 
>  Why? Because a handful of corporations fear
>  large legal or domain name registration fees
>  as a result of all those new Domains. We are
>  being held hostage by the bottum lines of
>  companies whose interests are now at odds
>  with the free flow and functioning of this
>  communications Network. I say we shove them
>  out of the way, turn to the original Postel-
>  Higgs RFC (with some modifications) restart
>  the open IETF process to set technical standards
>  and force a solution.
> 
>  Which is to say we have been wasting all this
>  time arguing about some- thing that should have
>  happened years ago. What a sad testimony to the
>  true inefficiency  of this alleged salvation
>  Internet medium! We are all imprisoned by a de
>  facto cartel of alleged Trademark holders to
>  protect their ability to reap (rape?) even more
>  money. From us no less! What irony! What cynical
>  beautiful irony! Brave new world my ass... it's
>  business as usual, only with a cyber twist.
> 
>  TeleVirtually Yours,
> 
>  Bob Allisat
> 
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