Re: The "Statement of Principles"

["Paul Stahura" <stahura@enom.com>]

>Paul and all,
>
>Paul Stahura wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Then by your logic NSI and the USG don't have control
>> over it either, since they also have *not* put names in the root.
>
>  Yes the USG through the NSF and DOD have put TLD's in the Root.
>Such as .MIL, .GOV, .US.  SO this response doesn't hold up Paul.
>

That was soooo long ago.  Who put the country codes in the root
back then, Jeff?
Bob Helfant was suggesting that since IANA didn't put any names
in the root *recently* then they don't have any power *now*.
I am saying, if you apply that logic,
the same is true for the USG and NSI and everyone else
because nobody has put names in the root recently, then
by his logic nobody has control.
Since that is a false conclusion, (that nobody has the power), then
I figure Bob's logic must be is wrong.
Jeff, even you, I think, can see that.


>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Helfant <bhelfant@globecomm.com>
>> To: gtld-discuss@gtld-mou.org <gtld-discuss@gtld-mou.org>
>> Cc: pab@gtld-mou.org <pab@gtld-mou.org>
>> Date: Monday, June 01, 1998 10:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: The "Statement of Principles"
>>
>> >I find the part about IANA currently having control over all TLDs a
little
>> >out of line.  I have signed the orginal MoU and didn't have to agree to
>> >that statement.  It is clearly not true, or CORE would have its 7 TLDs
in
>> >the root by now.  Are you really asking people to sign this or are you
>> >looking for concencus and/or suggestions to release this statement as an
>> >MoU lite?
>> >
>> >Bob Helfant
>> >GlobeComm, Inc.
>> >
>> >At 09:23 AM 6/1/98 -0700, Kent Crispin wrote:
>> >>To gtld-discuss:
>> >>
>> >>While you are twiddling your thumbs waiting for the white paper,
>> >>here's something to think about:
>> >>
>> >>Appended is a draft "Statement of Principles".  It is intended that a
>> >>signature on this document would be sufficient to become a member of
>> >>PAB.  Note that signatures must be from bona fide entities.
>> >>
>> >>Also note that explicitly, a signature does not legally bind a
>> >>signatory to anything.  Thus, membership is essentially open --
>> >>instead of charging $35/year or something like that, the basic
>> >>membership requirement is being a bona fide entity with sufficient
>> >>interest to go to the trouble of submitting a signature.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES CONCERNING GENERIC TOP LEVEL DOMAINS
>> >>
>> >>This declaration represents an agreement among the undersigned on a
>> >>broad statement of principles that should govern 1) the administration
>> >>of the global domain name system (DNS) of the Internet, and 2) the set
>> >>of generic top level domains (gTLDs).
>> >>
>> >>This statement is not intended to and shall not impose legal
>> >>obligations on those who sign.
>> >>
>> >>  I.  The administration of the DNS is now under the control of the
>> >>  Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA), a private organization
>> >>  that derives its authority from its standing in the Internet
>> >>  community, and by charter from the Internet Architecture Board, the
>> >>  fundamental standards body of the Internet.
>> >>
>> >>  II.  IANA currently has control over all TLDs in the global DNS,
>> >>  including the ISO 3166 Country Code TLDs (ccTLDs), the specialized
>> >>  TLDs (sTLDs), and the generic TLDs (gTLDs).  ccTLD registries are
>> >>  delegated by IANA to appropriate political authorities; sTLDs are
>> >>  governed by charters approved by IANA, and gTLDs are governed by
>> >>  a tradition of fair use codified in RFCs and IANA policies.
>> >>
>> >>  III.  Administration of the DNS should remain under the control of a
>> >>  private organization, either IANA or some organization derived from
>> >>  IANA, in the legal form of a corporation or otherwise.  This
>> >>  organization should operate in the public interest, for the benefit
>> >>  of the Internet, not for profit; and must be responsive to public
>> >>  policy concerns.
>> >>
>> >>  IV.  Administration of the DNS should not at any time be under the
>> >>  control of any national government.
>> >>
>> >>  V.  Each gTLD registry shall be subject to the following policies or
>> >>  principles, enforced ultimately by IANA, or its successor:
>> >>
>> >>    (a) IANA, or its successor, shall determine when and whether to
>> >>    create new gTLDs including specification of the alphanumeric
>> >>    strings, the timing of introduction of new gTLDs, and the number of
>> >>    gTLDs, through an open, unbiased, public procedure.
>> >>
>> >>    (b) The data in each registry shall be freely available to the
>> >>    public, subject only to restrictions relating to privacy.
>> >>
>> >>    (c) gTLD registries shall operate in the public interest on a cost
>> >>    recovery basis and not for profit, under the ultimate supervision
>> >>    of IANA (or its successor).
>> >>
>> >>    (d) Access for registration of second level domains in all gTLD
>> >>    registries shall be equally available to all qualified registrars
>> >>    on a non-discriminatory basis.  The qualifications for registrars
>> >>    will be under the control of IANA (or its successor).
>> >>
>> >>    (e) IANA (or its successor) will establish a uniform procedure for
>> >>    resolving disputes involving trademarks and other intellectual
>> >>    property issues concerning domain names.  This procedure will
>> >>    offer an efficient and inexpensive means of dispute resolution
>> >>    without supplanting or interfering with the jurisdiction of
>> >>    national courts or the rights of Internet users to have resort to
>> >>    the courts.
>> >>
>> >>    (f) Registration services for second level domain names in the
>> >>    gTLDs should be globally distributed, and, except in exceptional
>> >>    circumstances, should be shared among all registrars that meet
>> >>    appropriate technical qualifications.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Kent Crispin, PAB Chair "No reason to get excited",
>> >>kent@songbird.com the thief he kindly spoke...
>> >>PGP fingerprint:   B1 8B 72 ED 55 21 5E 44  61 F4 58 0F 72 10 65 55
>> >>http://songbird.com/kent/pgp_key.html
>> >>
>> >
>
> Regards,
>
>--
>Jeffrey A. Williams
>DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
>Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
>E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
>
>