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Re: PAB Re: The "Statement of Principles"
- Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 12:39:42 +0100
- From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
- Subject: Re: PAB Re: The "Statement of Principles"
Sascha and all,
Sascha Ignjatovic wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Bob Helfant wrote:
>
> > At 04:20 PM 6/1/98 -0700, Kent Crispin wrote:
> > >On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 01:19:21PM -0400, Bob Helfant wrote:
> > >> I find the part about IANA currently having control over all TLDs a little
> > >> out of line.
> > >
> > >OK. I'm not going to change it, though -- I think it's basically a
> > >semantic issue about what you mean by "control": a bank president
> > >controls the opening of the vault, except when a robber holds a gun
> > >to his head.
> >
> > Speaking of control, when you say that you are not going to change part of
> > this document, you seem to be implying that you are the authority choosing
> > what will be required to join and vote in PAB going forward.
> >
> > Bob Helfant
>
> usg hase no "control" over the dns becouse it wants to GIVE UP the
> "control" over the internet dns and internet in general
The USG could not give up control over anything it did not already
control. So your logic here Ssacha is way off.
>
>
> so usg hase "control" by giving up its control :-)
Correct.
>
>
> iana hase "control" becouse it hase build up curent dns system and
> will have control becouse it will be the organisation inchagt for the
> new dns system
No the new, or rather existing DNS system with 5 new gTLD's, IANA,
will be a non-profit organization. You need to read the GP again Sascha.
>
>
> so what is wrong with mr.crispins statements ?
They are invalid and incorrect, first of all. Second they presuppose that
the new IANA will control everything dealing with the DNS system, and that
has yet to be determined.
>
>
> basicaly he is rigth
He is not even close.
>
>
> becouse the new iana will be inchargt for the new dns and not the usg
> as they want to ghet out of it !
THis is possibly correct. When the White Paper comes out exactly how much
control the new IANA will have will be determined at that time.
>
>
> mr.crispin is the chosen chairman of the pab and in this position he hase
> some competence and autority
THis is your opinion, and you are intitled to it of course. Many, in fact the
majority of the stakeholders don't agree with this obviously.
>
>
> he hase done nothing wich will harm the dns or anybody else in this world
The MoU would have and is still attempting to disenfranchise the stakeholder
and the Internet community at large be now allowing full participation in their
MoU process. This be definition is harmful to the DNS system and all of its
users and stakeholders.
>
>
> he just maded clear that the iana is/will be the entity for managing the
> new dns system
He has made a knowingly false assumption or statement. The IANA does not
now CONTROL the DNS system, but from time to time decisions as to what
gTLD's and TLD are added is determined by the IANA.
>
>
> and this is the only way to come forward
No it is not. If you have been paying attention over the past two years, you
couldn't possibly make this statement.
>
>
> this are mine personal views but not les valuable becouse of that
>
> thanks
> sascha
>
>
>
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com