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Re: Farber on self-governance



Will and all,

Will Rodger wrote:

> Below is a statement from Dave Farber, EFF board member, distinguished
> computer scientist at the University of Pennsylvania and all-around Net
> Savant.
>
> Surely readers of this list will heed his warning.
>
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> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 05:44:29 +0900
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> From: Dave Farber <farber@cis.upenn.edu>
> Subject: IP: Self Governance -- to be or not to be
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>
> Ever since, and even before, the issuance of the DNS White Paper, there has
> been a flurry of plans to hold meetings to establish the organization that
> was proposed in the paper. While that is of course great, unfortunately the
> meetings are viewed by many as a battle to establish supremacy and
> ownership of the new organization. They are not only uncoordinated but they
> often slam the others as fakes, setups by the establishment (whichever
> establishment you want) etc.

  Very true.  We are seeing that now expecially from the MoU group and now
the ISOC.  But I suppose that we all should have expected this to occur.  Shame
really....

>
>
> I find this very unfortunate -- no very dangerous. In back of  the whole
> USG process was, I believe, the hope that the network community was mature
> enough to take on self governance. If we blow it the result will be
> governance by Governments with all the negatives that holds for the future
> evolution of the net.

  I am afraid that Dave may indeed be right here.  This is something that
I (We ) have warned of time and time again.

>
>
> What do we do. We could act grown up!! We could coordinate the meetings and
> make it appear like we are organized. I wonder if the net establishment is
> indeed willing to be grown up or will they fight till there is nothing left.

  This depends on weather there are those of us that are willing to participate
in an OPEN process that is inclusive of all of the stakeholders and the Internet

User community with and equal voice.

>
>
> Personally what I would like to see is for a neutral international
> organization to call for/coordinate a set of meetings that aim at the
> evolution of self governance. Since the Internet is so important to the
> evolution of the worlds science and technology I would see if the
> Organization of National Academies of Science (not just the US) would take
> on such a difficult task. There may be other non governmental organizations
> who have a vested interest in a good result but have no desire or mandate
> to benefit from a particular solution.

  Agreed.

>
>
> I will help as i can.

  As will we....

>
>
> Dave
>
> "Photons have neither morals nor visas"  --  Dave Farber 1994
>
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 Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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