PAB Re: Consensus

[Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>]

On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 07:29:29PM -0400, Jay Fenello wrote:
> At 10:43 AM 7/3/98 -0700, Kent Crispin wrote:
> >More important than the particular definition of consensus, however,
> >is the 2nd conclusion of the group "B" (as reported at
> >http://www.domainhandbook.com/giaw.html):
> >
> >
> >    2.  As a whole, the IFWP participants should act as the principle
> >    incorporators of the new organization.  In other words, we can be
> >    considered to be *the* stakeholders. [Emphasis added]
> >
> >As far as I am concerned that vote comes close to invalidating the
> >entire IFWP process.  Clearly, the IFWP participants are not the only
> >stakeholders, and by making the claim that they are I see that my
> >worst fears of an attempt to hijack the process are very likely
> >well-founded.  Any responsible effort would acknowledge that they are
> >not the only stakeholders.
> 
> 
> Hi Kent,
> 
> If had not been present at that session, I would
> be expressing exactly the same concerns.  In this 
> case, however, IFWP participants are defined as 
> anyone who participates in *any* IFWP process,
> including electonic participation.

Doesn't make any difference at all to my interpretation.  The
conclusion of your statement is that non-participants in the IFWP
process are not stakeholders.  That is clearly invalid, and on its
face it amounts to a power grab on the part of the "IFWP process".   

To put it another way, the "IFWP process" has anointed itself as the
sole representative of stakeholders in the new organization.

Let me be clear, Jay -- I am a stakeholder, and I don't want the IFWP
to represent me.  If the IFWP has integrity behind its claims of
openness it will honor that point of view, realize that it cannot
represent all stakeholders, and deal with that simple fact.

-- 
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